BusinessWeek has a story Oracle Has Customers Over a Barrel (indeed!); what is extraordinary is how many customers have been willing to be quoted by name saying this like"Once you've made a deal with the devil, it's hard to get away," says
James Sims, chief information officer of California grocer Save Mart
Supermarkets, who says he's stuck with some Oracle products because
it's too expensive to switch to alternatives. "They're extorting us.
I'm very unhappy with them." Oracle declined to comment for this
article.
This year, because of the recession, Alaska Air Group renegotiatedThat story summarizes why the market needs competition and why it is in the customers' interest to encourage new suppliers. Ultimately that is the real market opportunity for companies like Zoho.lower fees with every one of its software suppliers—except Oracle.
"They won't budge on pricing, and we're totally locked in," complains
Kris Kutchera, vice-president for information technology at Alaska Air.
"The bigger they've gotten, the stronger they've gotten, and it's
harder for customers to get a deal."
The BusinessWeek story does have some positive news: is going even further. It's replacing many of its Oracle databases with another open-source package, PostgreSQL. Takeshi Tachi, a senior manager in NTT's Open Source Software Center, says PostgreSQL is now good enough to be used in some of the company's most critical computing systems. He expects NTT will save $10 million a year with the switch. Ed Boyajian, CEO of EnterpriseDB, which sells PostgreSQL to NTT, says he's seen plenty of interest since Oracle said it was buying Sun and MySQL. "A lot of attention has shifted to us," he says.
The barrier today is in the minds of large
enterprises. They are not really locked in - if only they would look at
alternatives with an open mind, they can free themselves up from the
"deal with the devil", as the CIO of Save Mart puts it. Companies that are willing to look around are reaping the benefit today.
The reality is that much of what enterprises consider to be mission-critical systems today can be done a lot cheaper, perhaps 80% cheaper than what today's suppliers are charging. We run a world-class data center at Zoho, with entirely commodity components. Our reliability, performance and up time can easily compete with what the best of enterprise IT systems offer, at a cost that is just a fraction of what large enterprises spend. Ultimately, our pricing advantage comes from that architecture.
We have set ourselves the goal of changing the pricing
model in this industry. We firmly believe that today's business models will
not be common by 2020, and our entire effort in Zoho revolves around
that fundamental thesis. As with all such revolutions, things start
small, and gain momentum. We are ready!
Venkatesh,Most of the SaaS vendors do support standards. You can import or export data in standard formats from vendors like Zoho, Salesforce, Google etc. There are APIs available from these vendors and there are third parties offering migration tools/services.
Venkatesh,Most of the SaaS vendors do support standards. You can import or export data in standard formats from vendors like Zoho, Salesforce, Google etc. There are APIs available from these vendors and there are third parties offering migration tools/services.
it used to be said that you dont get fired for "buying IBM" but fortunately the world has got over that fatal attraction ! however in the RDBMS world, the this obsession with Oracle continues ... and I feel that it is sheer laziness -- intellectual laziness -- to consider the excellent options that are available around open source solutions like MySQL ! when will people learn ?
it used to be said that you dont get fired for "buying IBM" but fortunately the world has got over that fatal attraction ! however in the RDBMS world, the this obsession with Oracle continues ... and I feel that it is sheer laziness -- intellectual laziness -- to consider the excellent options that are available around open source solutions like MySQL ! when will people learn ?
Sridhar,Applying your thought process and principle to SaaS vendors, its even worse.It would be more difficult if business have committed all of their data to the cloud to a service like Zoho or Salesforce. Once a business does that, it loses its capacity to "develop", since there is no more an IT Team which knows how to maintain IT system.So if Salesforce were to become big, a customer stuck with a cloud vendor will be even in a bigger soup. In the example you quote, the business can move to say SQL Server or PostGres.But moving from one cloud service to another is next to impossible in todays world and toolset.When it comes to SaaS , even presence of competition is not enough. What is needed is tools and API's to migrated data between say zoho to salesforce to any other SaaS vendor.
Sridhar,Applying your thought process and principle to SaaS vendors, its even worse.It would be more difficult if business have committed all of their data to the cloud to a service like Zoho or Salesforce. Once a business does that, it loses its capacity to "develop", since there is no more an IT Team which knows how to maintain IT system.So if Salesforce were to become big, a customer stuck with a cloud vendor will be even in a bigger soup. In the example you quote, the business can move to say SQL Server or PostGres.But moving from one cloud service to another is next to impossible in todays world and toolset.When it comes to SaaS , even presence of competition is not enough. What is needed is tools and API's to migrated data between say zoho to salesforce to any other SaaS vendor.
Sridhar, great post as always .. could not agree more
Sridhar, great post as always .. could not agree more
Great insight as usual Sridhar.Drew
Great insight as usual Sridhar.Drew